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OUR SUBHUMAN POLITICIANS

October 29th 2009 02:25
In ignoring the horrendous plight of the Sri Lankan women and children our politicians show subhuman traits.

Raving about force to remove them from the boat off Indonesia and gaoling them in Indonesian "illegal" refugee camps ( they have no law and order and fall way below standards demanded by the UN) their bastardry is very clear.

Poor old Kevin Rudd (THE DIPLOMAT) lived with diplomacy for so long he can't see the cruelty of the Indonesia authorities despite seeing graphic film images. Genuine refugees are not allowed to earn money so the women and children are in a very vulnerable position.


I am really ashamed of being Australian at the moment. However I know ordinary Australians would always help children in distress unless they have the proclivities of pedophiles.
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Comment by Mountain Fog

November 10th 2009 05:35
Bill, I must disagree, in part.

It appears ordinary Aussies are against helping boat people (illogical I know as more refugees declare themselves after arriving via jet), which is the reason that Rudd is too frightened to make a principled stand, he is jellybacking to voter backlash, trying to find an impossible middle ground.

I actually think the problem is with the containment camps. It is the common complaint of refugees that they have fled camps where they and their children were in dire peril.

The camps should be set up under UN law (not under the law and rights of the particular country the camp is in), and it should only run by UN staff, making sure everyone is well fed and properly cared for, as they wait for acceptance in nominated countries.

The exisitng camps' waiting lists (some refugess say they waited over 5 years with no hope) should be reduced to one year at most, so security checks can be made.

Just having a come one and all attitude does, and has, led to unscrupulous operators taking advantage for a profit, then risking these hapless peoples' lives.

Fix the camps, fix the waiting time and I say the boat people problem will disappear.

cheers

fog


Comment by Mountain Fog

November 10th 2009 05:50
Oh, and I should add, I totally agree with you regarding Indonesia, they are utterly monstrous when it comes to human rights, just look at the mass (near) genocide in West Papua (250,000 dead), they now call Irian Jaya, and now Papua itself has people being subjected to human rights abuses as Indon military take it over.

The only way ahead with them is, we have a much bigger and high tech military strike force, and be prepared to use it to uphold people's rights.

I am not a war mongerer, but over the decades all I've seen is the USA let Indon military get away with wholesale murder for cooperative mining rights, and our own successive governments keep their mouths shut.

We need three carrier groups, then they will listen a bit more. Maybe then, we could demand the UN recognize that the alleged vote by West Papua was invalid, (the native population had no idea what their X on a piece of paper meant at the time) and that Indonesia has perpetrated mass murder and incarceration, particularly of the tree people.

Comment by Bill Green

November 11th 2009 22:28
Yes Fog I remember our politicians (Andrew Peacock in particular) being overjoyed at the take over. My problem is that Indonesia is run by the military and they only come from one island in the group, Java. They were also responsible for over 200,000 deaths in East Timor (and Gough went along with that, even encouraged it for the oil.)

Problem with the UN is that Gareth Evans is one of their mouthpieces and he signed an oil deal with Indonesia, leaving East Timor out.

Maybe we should vote in the third party.

Comment by Mountain Fog

November 12th 2009 05:16
I'm inclined to agree with you Bill,

both Labor and Liberal are complicitous in the Indon military attrocities, and Gareth Evans, I will never forget that short clip of him toasting his Indon counterpart Foreign Min. with champagne while the bodies of Timorese were still floating in deep sea...

I still think if we were totally militarily independant and self sufficient, we could muster a lot more support amongst the smaller States and put alot more pressure on Indon genodial tendanices; however, you are also quite correct, the oil problem has ied everyone's hands to a large degree, BHP etc.

I seem to remember they were cutting a deal with East Timor over sea bed oil fields, but the Prez of Timor was resentful of the deal.. is that right?

cheers

fog

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